19 participants plus 2 officers
Pat mcNichol and Tommy Fong officers present
Imprint City,is a 501c3 business on Egbert Avenue, 4 businesses on Egbert: Laughing Monk, etc. want to activate area. Have had a variety of events bringing out about 100 people each. From 2-10 Sparc Festival, First Annual on 3rd and Jennings. Next weekend is a Tribe City Festival. Celebration of African American Culture. Final festival is Bayview Live end of October. Science technology environment and math forms STEM. OCT 22 noon to 7. Looking at 400-500 people today. Not free. $20 fee to Bayview residents. Funding comes from different funding streams. Some is self funded. Laughing Monk will donate back 1$ for every drink sold. Motley array of funding sources. Want the companies to invest more in the Bayview population to recruit kids and teach coding. There is an application process. Kids think coding is tedious and boring. If they know it leads to more exciting Tech companies are desperate for coders. They may pay as much as $100,000. Right now there is no pipeline Only 5% of students take computer sciences. Needs to be a way to access out of school programs. Often neighborhoods like Bayview get left behind. Tech companies need a pipeline to channel kids into coding jobs. Mission Bit is now in Bayview.
City College has a program to work on this pipeline. Tyra does not ascribe to these groups. There has to be will to create a pipeline.
Jennifer Burden couldn't make it today. Sgt. Tommy Fong and officer Pat mcNichol. Goal is to develop solutions not to complain about crime. Pat McNichol Used to be the Third street foot beat officer and was n a bike. Now he's in a car. Officer for about 8 years. What are your main concerns?
Well known drug dealer near my house, reporting to captain. We don't see anything being done,
A. We are working on this case. Spoke to captain about it. 4 officers are assigned to this small project whenever they're free. Might be a situation where we have to sit watch wait before we act.
Q. Fireworks. Media said illegal fireworks will not be tolerated any longer. This 4th was the worst I've ever experienced ever.
A. Very difficult because people are actually shooting off guns. No reports of anyone hurt or injured. Tough night to work.
Q. Led to believe it wouldn't be tolerated. Big disappointment.
A. Cited and arrested individuals on July 4.
Comment: You have to pick and choose what to deal with on 4th.
People come to Bayview to blow things up. Why not intervene.
A. Side shows at Candlestick with cars doing wheelies.
Q. Can devices distinguish between gun fire and fireworks.
A. Somewhat. Most of the time officer can distinguish difference, but other noises set shot spotter off.
Q. Are they mobile. Could they be installed on telephone poles?
A. It shows us on a map. But on July 4th, machine is out of control.
Q. Urination in driveways. Parking in driveways.
A. Sergeant has taken this on as personal project. Public Urination is a crime.Jennings and Revere market have similar issues. Call non emergency number. One resident just goes out and chases them.
Q. Is this a matter of lighting?
A. Lighting is not a deterrent. We will go after them.
Q. Third and Oakdale whole combination of things. Urination, they don't care. Hanging out in front of neighbors house. Hide their drugs at neighbors house. Pull into her driveway, play music loud. Park in other driveways, in the car sleeping. Same people come everyday like they have a job. Dealing drugs. Take weed out of car and carry on their business. When the police come, they warn each other.
A. Had 3 good arrests on third and Oakdale. Can't stand dirt bikers. Tough to stop. Policy is not to chase. One of senior guys watched them from afar and waited til they parked.. Bike was stolen. Confiscated bike.
Q. What happens to stolen bikes.
A. Return to owner if possible. Can confiscate for 30 days.
Q In NYC they destroyed all confiscated bikes.
Tyra : tough job. People are unemployable, no jobs. These are other deep issues beyond just enforcing law.
A. Tries to talk to kids on the side.
Hard to chase down quality of life crimes. You are dealing with real crimes.
Comment: efforts have not been effective. Where can we go? Can we refer it out?
A. City is not short of resources. Has gotten shelter for people loitering in Mendell Plaza. Where do we go from here? Whatever you guys have been doing, we need more.
Comment. We see you here but not on the street.
A. Cannot reveal undercover activities.
Has anyone ever gone to the dea to enlist their help? Do you coordinate with these other agencies.
A. We have in other neighborhoods. We have gotten keys from neighbors but we don't want them seen. If I have access, I will not tell anyone.
Tommy Fong has this as a side project.
Where are your area of focus in the Bayview?
A. We try to make as many arrests as possible. Entire Bayview is my district.
Comment: seems like a lot of bullshit.
Comment: we have to reintroduce every time.
A. I want to work with you guys to solve these problems.
C: we've lost faith.
How do we get Bayview station to end these drug crimes.
Have to ask is crime just being contained?
Q. What are the specific obstacles to arresting PJoint? What do you need from the community to get this guy off the street?
A. We need to actually observe drug dealing. Can possibly move to arrest with cameras. Need to present a case to DA. NEED HIGH DEF. CAMERA EVIDENCE. need to collect video evidence.
C: my assumption is that you let it stay so it doesn't move to another neighborhood.
A. We do make arrests. We haven't stopped making arrests there. Well keep doing what we're doing.
C. You have to wonder how long it would take to contain drug business in Pacific Heights.
Tyra. From Imprint City Disinfranchised population in Bayview Unfortunate part is that people get swept up in out migration that are good people. We appreciate your coming out. But this is an overwhelming issue not solved by police department alone. This is a way deeper issue, social issue.
Enforcement is a different bucket than prevention. This will be a trail of tears for years. To get to root of problem needs multiple contacts besides police.
Q. Could police talk to the owner of the house on Third and Oakdale.
Q. Do laws on public nuisance apply here and how they might be used. If something is impacting a home or a neighborhood, a judgment if rendered can close it down.
More discussion on legalities. Too much to write about.
Need to contact supervisor about installing public toilets.
Arresting people is putting a bandaid on a deeper issue. What are out crime prevention programs.?
Seems that attitude of city is to wait out the out migration.
YMCA. officer plays basketball with youth. Organized a trip for Bayview youth. Trying to get to youth before they make such bad decisions they can't come back.
Q. When did you start in Bayview? When captain Bruce was at Bayview there was an institution of these kinds of things. Need more contacts that are peaceful. What programs have been continued?
A. Want officers out there engaging with the community. Police dept. has a unit that goes out and does these projects eg garden project. Give job for summer with stipend pay. Lots of interaction with police officers.
Pressure should be on DAs office.
There is a whole realm of issues. Fewer officers now. Have to do more with less. Won't let an officer that doesn't meet standards continue. City is consistently hiring. 50 people per academy. In his class 40 made it through academy and 2 got fired during field training. No predicting how many make it through.
Are there any programs to encourage kids to get into police force.
PAL is one. Need to go into neighborhoods and encourage kids to go into police force.
Next BRITE meeting August 20
Meeting started at 10:15am.
UPDATE FROM BRITE's BUSINESS ACTIVATION COMMITTEE (Mie Yaginuma)
• Not getting much response to repeated offers to help owners rent, clean up, or fix up storefronts along Third St—letters, phone calls, and visits.
• Notifying owners of a new SF law that requires owners to register empty storefronts and pay a $780 annual fee; failure to register results in fines of up to nine times the fee. Another new law requires that two-thirds of each storefront be unobstructed so that people can see inside.
• Seeking to work with the Office of Economic and Workforce Development funds the Economic Development on Third (EDOT) program.
BAYVIEW BUSINESS UPDATES (Alka Joshi)
• Craftsmen and Wolves chef is opening a café on Yosemite/Keith, across from his catering kitchen (Outfit Generic). Planning to open in about six weeks.
• Joe Garvey (Clash, Urban Putt, Romper Room) is looking for a space on Third St to open a bar (between Galvez and Yosemite).
• Radio Africa now open from noon to 8:00pm, and Community Tuesdays are back.
• Old Skool planning a morning coffee cart in Mendell Plaza; also planning to start serving lunch (Wed.-Sat.?).
• Public Glass is hopeful about negotiations for a new lease—BRITE has written a support letter. Hot Glass Cold Beer event sold out last month (500+ attended) for the first time.
SHIPYARD UPDATE (Linda Parker Pennington)
• First 24 families (“Visionaries”) have moved in, and the Storehouse (at the Shipyard gate) is open.
• Block party in the works – possibly during the Shipyard Open Studios (Oct. 17 and 18).
PUBLIC SAFETY DISCUSSION ( SFPD LT. Michelle Craig)
• Chronic loitering, urination, littering, and paintballing (for a month straight!) by large groups at Quesada and Third; drug dealing across the street.
• Drug activity on Oakdale between Third and Lane has also increased—two buildings in particular. (Probably a migration from Mendell Plaza after cameras were installed outside Old Skool.)
• Similar problems outside Friendly Liquors on Thomas, and the corner store on Revere.
• SFPD Bayview station issues a biweekly newsletter. You can subscribe and get a biweekly email: go to http://sf-police.org/index.aspx?page=798...and click on the link at the bottom-right.
DISCUSSION: SOLUTIONS to PROBLEMS ABOVE?
• Immediate neighbors can document incidents and file nuisance suits against businesses that facilitate illegal activity.
• While gun violence is an understandable priority, neighbors are asking police to treat chronic infractions as part of their overall enforcement plan.
• Also seeking accountability from the city’s Street Violence Intervention Program, which is supposed to offer alternative paths (rehab, training, jobs, etc.), like Operation Ceasefire. Program director Kate McCracken has not responded to BRITE boardmember Jonathan Germain’s requests for a meeting. NEIGHBORS, PLEASE CALL OF EMAIL (415-554-4793,firstname.lastname@example.org) TO PRESSURE HER INTO MEETING WITH JONATHAN.
At 10:10 a.m. BRITE board member Ann deJesús introduced other board members and reviewed the agenda.
Board updates: Board member Alka gave an update on Richmond’s “Ceasefire” program, the focus of the May general meeting. SFOP, the sister organization in SF that wants to implement a similar program in Bayview told us that the project will be a long process and will probably take until year-end to assign a working group.
Community Business Updates:
Proposed Housing Development by Alfred McAfee at 4230 Third Street:
Report from the District Attorney’s Office:
Bayview SFPD Report:
BRITE member Alka reported that Swissport.com at SFO has lots of jobs. Passenger service, cargo service, operations.
Audience: Contact community ambassadors to see about the possibility of publicizing these jobs. How else can we best get ahold of those people hanging out on Third?
Bayview CAC Report:
Meeting adjourned at 11:45am.